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Book Discussion: The Mystery at Bob-White Cave
Feb 17th, 2010, 1:36pm
 
It's time.  The Bob-Whites are visiting Uncle Andrew in the Ozarks.  Not that it is a restful vacation.  (Would we want them to have one?)
 
What are your thoughts on The Mystery at Bob-White Cave?
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Reply #1 - Feb 17th, 2010, 4:01pm
 
This is one of my favorites it at least makes the top five on my list from 1 through 5 I have personally had a vacation into Missouri to go cave exploring with my kids when they were younger it was inspired because of this book. I'll post more about my thoughts on the subject after I've freshened my mind with a reread first though.
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Reply #2 - Feb 19th, 2010, 12:58am
 
One of my middle-of-the road books. I think I like it better now than I did as a kid. This is the book that lost my daughter. She didn't like Marshland and was bored silly by the first part of this one. I kept telling her it would get better, but she finally gave up, and has not picked up a Trixie since.  cry
 
I LOVE the cave. I want to see it. It sounds stunning. I think caves are so interesting, even though it's been several years since I've been in one. I really liked Mrs. Moore and Linnie and Bill Hawkins. And Matthew, although we don't get to know him until the end. They seem like bone-deep good people. There's more of Uncle Andrew in this one, and he's very likeable, too. Ol' Andy must be pretty well off if he can afford two houses big enough to host 5-6 people and pay for staffs for both of them. Obviously, he needs the Gormans to run the sheep ranch, but I wouldn't think the lodge would need a much looking after if he wasn't there. I got the impression Mrs. Moore was a full-time housekeeper, although I suppose she could be part-time. Andy is a nice, generous man who cares deeply about the people in his life. I wonder if he ever set up education funds for his favorite niece and nephews? He was willing to help Linnie through high school, so it seems likely.I love the ending where Matthew Moore recovers his memory and is reunited with his family. I liked Mart in this book. Sometimes the KKs make him too much of a caricature. The information on spelunking was interesting, too.  
 
On the down side, the opening scene shows Trixie as the biggest brat ever in the series. She could be pretty over-the-top at times in this book. Also, the group wouldn't accept Uncle Andrew's offer of money toward the charity, but they let him purchase all that spelunking equipment, plus a tank to keep the fish in? Sexism was rampant (the girls washed the dishes, the boys unhitched the mules), but that wasn't uncommon when the book was written. Honey was a wimp. Her biggest contribution in this book was making the curtains. I noticed that when Trixie needed help, she always called, "Jim! Brian!". Not Mart, and certainly not Honey. Oh, yes, I forgot that Honey called the boys ("Jim! Brian!") for help when Trixie was drowning. That was important!  
 
I'd still like to stay at the lodge, meet the Moores and explore that cave.  Smiley
 
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Reply #3 - Feb 19th, 2010, 1:22am
 
I just finished reading this book a few weeks ago.
I actually really enjoy this book I found it really sad that slim would actually set a fire to linnie and mrs moore's home. The first time I read this book i was only 11 and when i was up to the end of the book where trixie nearly drowned i was really scared. Not my favourite, but definately in my top 10! Smiley
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Reply #4 - Feb 19th, 2010, 10:31am
 
One of my favorite Trixie scenes of all times is when Jim's strong arms rescue her from the sink hole. (happy sigh)  But I do believe he gets blue eyes for this one?   I can't help it.  I love the damsel in distress storyline.  And Jim with blue eyes or green eyes could save me any day!!
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Reply #5 - Feb 19th, 2010, 3:55pm
 
Quote from Pamela S. on Feb 19th, 2010, 10:31am:
One of my favorite Trixie scenes of all times is when Jim's strong arms rescue her from the sink hole. (happy sigh)  But I do believe he gets blue eyes for this one?   I can't help it.  I love the damsel in distress storyline.  And Jim with blue eyes or green eyes could save me any day!!

 
 
For me it doesn't matter what color of eyes he has just that he's there when she needs him (sigh...)
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Reply #6 - Feb 19th, 2010, 4:00pm
 
Quote from Elaine on Feb 19th, 2010, 3:55pm:
Quote from Pamela S. on Feb 19th, 2010, 10:31am:
One of my favorite Trixie scenes of all times is when Jim's strong arms rescue her from the sink hole. (happy sigh)  But I do believe he gets blue eyes for this one?   I can't help it.  I love the damsel in distress storyline.  And Jim with blue eyes or green eyes could save me any day!!



For me it doesn't matter what color of eyes he has just that he's there when she needs him (sigh...)

Well said, Elaine!! Smiley
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Reply #7 - Feb 19th, 2010, 9:41pm
 
This book would not make my top ten, probably primarily because never in my wildest dreams, could I imagine forcing myself to enter a cave!  I am absolutely an indoor type, although as as a kid, we hung out in the woods a lot. I liked the book more as I got older, though. I love Uncle Andrew, although I was also puzzled because he seemed so entrenched in each place; with the travel thrown in, he was a pretty busy guy, no wonder he never married. I loved the ending with Matthew, hated Slim and loved the Moores. It was a stretch though, that they found the fish in the first cave they went in. Not in the bottom ten or top ten either. Maybe #11 is about right. Wink Wink
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Reply #8 - Feb 20th, 2010, 5:51pm
 
I like this book - not my favorite, though. I get really aggrevated at Trixie in this one - I mean, how much of a one track mind can you have? Have some fun and let your family and friends relax a little!  
 
I really enjoy the setting - I like caves and being outdoors. I love the Moore's and all the neighbors - the party is great. Uncle Andrew is great, too. I really enjoy all the local color and customs that we see in the book. It really makes me want to be there.
 
The main thing I didn't like, besides Trixie's attitude, has already been mentioned. The kids refused Uncle Andrew's offer of money, but how much did he spend on equipment and stuff? It had to be a small fortune - any kind of outdoor equipment is really expensive.  
 
Good stuff  Smiley
 
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Reply #9 - Feb 21st, 2010, 1:30pm
 
Quote from jfit on Feb 20th, 2010, 5:51pm:
I like this book - not my favorite, though. I get really aggrevated at Trixie in this one - I mean, how much of a one track mind can you have? Have some fun and let your family and friends relax a little!
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Reply #10 - Feb 22nd, 2010, 10:49pm
 
I really liked this book. Trixie's attitude was annoying, very true, but I liked the cave exploring. I liked the "ghost" side plot. I loved the party scene. My favorite part was when Trixie, Honey, and Linnie was in the lodge talking.
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Reply #11 - Feb 28th, 2010, 1:23pm
 
The Mystery at Bob-White Cave falls somewhere in the middle of the like/dislike scale for me.
 
It was fun to visit the Ozark Mountains.  I missed Diana and Dan, but I liked meeting Linnie.  And I loved that Linnie and Mrs. Moore were reunited with Mr. Moore in the end.
 
Slim was annoying as soon as he showed up.  Bill Hawkins was uncomfortable with him, yet nothing was said for several chapters.  I wonder why Uncle Andrew didn't inquire further before hiring Slim as a guide.
 
It *is* strange that the BWGs let Uncle Andrew buy all the equipment.  It would have made more sense if the equipment was for the lodge from the beginning, as it ended up being since it wouldn't fit in their luggage, since then anyone could use it.  After all, the Idaho Beldens could visit Uncle Andrew, too! Smiley
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Reply #12 - Mar 6th, 2010, 9:27pm
 
I'm late getting this post in, but I love this book! The whole cave thing is so interesting to me. I've been in a couple of great caves, including a local cave called Marengo Cave and also Mammoth Cave in KY. I loved the cave scenes and felt that they were very descriptive. I love when they found the ghost fish.  
I loved the party! I especially loved the ending when they discover that the old man is really Mrs. Moore's husband. How perfectly perfect! Smiley
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Reply #13 - Mar 10th, 2010, 12:55am
 
Quote from Dina on Mar 6th, 2010, 9:27pm:
I'm late getting this post in, but I love this book! The whole cave thing is so interesting to me. I've been in a couple of great caves, including a local cave called Marengo Cave and also Mammoth Cave in KY. I loved the cave scenes and felt that they were very descriptive. I love when they found the ghost fish.
I loved the party! I especially loved the ending when they discover that the old man is really Mrs. Moore's husband. How perfectly perfect! Smiley

I agree. I love the cave!
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Reply #14 - Mar 12th, 2010, 5:59pm
 
I don't like the beginning of the book at all. Trixie is so whiny and bratty. I have to stifle the urge to reach through the book and smack her. Fortunately, things improve greatly after that shaky start.
 
I remember one of the lines that I always get a kick out of from Honey when they're in the cave. "It's the blackest black." The cave sounded so interesting, I really wished I could see it for myself.
 
I do have to confess though when they have the party that I kept visualizing the relatives that come out for the wedding in the Beverly Hillbillies movie.   Roll Eyes
 
As the book progresses, I still get wrapped up in the drama. That's pretty good after all these years.
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Reply #15 - Mar 12th, 2010, 8:43pm
 
It's funny, but now that you said that, I realized that I pictured the guests coming "Little House on the Prairie" style in wagons.
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Reply #16 - Mar 19th, 2010, 11:53pm
 
I liked the book! I didn't like Trixie's attitude at the beginning.I liked Linnie and Mrs. Moore!The best part was the party with the neighbors! Smiley
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Reply #17 - Jun 1st, 2013, 1:41pm
 
I remember this being a favorite of mine, as a young reader.  I think it was the adventure.  Going into a cave is not something I would normally do.  I agree that Trixie's attitude, at the start of the book was too weird.  Also, the fact that the BWGs were pretty much allowed to do what ever without much consequence was a bit unbelievable.  Uncle Andrew didn't seem to be in charge.  I missed Miss Trask in this book.  And Regan.  
 
The impression of the Ozark people did seem a bit stereotypical, but I suppose it could have been that way in the late 50's.  The separation of the boys and girls was somewhat new in this book.  The boys were often off doing "boy" things, while the girls stayed in and did domestic "girl" things.  Typical for Di, but not very characteristic for Honey and certainly not Trixie  Roll Eyes
 
In the end, the discovery of the ghost fish was a bit anti-climatic.  Throughout the book, the fish were the central theme, but finding them happened so quickly and it was over in the blink of an eye.  The charitable reason for the BWGs wanting the reward was also downplayed in the end.  It's like the writer suddenly switched gears and focused on the mystery of the ghost (Matthew Moore) and how Slim was trying to twart the "spelunkers" attempt to earn the reward.
 
I give this one a  Smiley for the adventure, but, for some reason (not sure why), the characters were a bit "off" and just didn't seem like the usual BWGs.
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Reply #18 - Mar 19th, 2017, 11:42pm
 
I am re-reading Bob White Cave, the short ugly version.  The cover makes me curious, the girl with Trixie seems to have black hair, Di didn't make that trip, so is she Linnie?  Her hair is too dark to be Honey imho!   Smiley
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Reply #19 - Mar 19th, 2017, 11:57pm
 
I think so. I've seen a picture from one of the other editions and it shows her with dark hair.
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