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Anybody watching the new Anne with an E
May 15th, 2017, 12:45pm
 
Full disclosure, I never watched the original series and I've only read the first book in the series.
 
I kind of liked episode 1. It had me both teary eyed and laughing. I've read online that there have been a lot of negative reactions by the diehard Anne fans.
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Re: Anybody watching the new Anne with an E
Reply #1 - May 15th, 2017, 12:52pm
 
I've never heard of it.  Is it Anne of Green Gables?
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Reply #2 - May 15th, 2017, 2:54pm
 
Yes. It's currently available on Netflix. It has originally aired in Canada under the title of Anne.
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Reply #3 - May 16th, 2017, 12:24am
 
My Netflix boycott aside, I refuse to watch it for a number of reasons, with the number one being the highly inappropriate, adult content path they have decided to pursue. There are several articles about it. Makes me sad and angry.
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Reply #4 - May 16th, 2017, 8:37am
 
I haven't seen those articles. The only ones I've seen are the ones saying it is too grim and bereft of joy.
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Reply #5 - May 17th, 2017, 12:33am
 
If you like, I can Pm one to you. I'm afraid the content isn't suitable for me to post the link here.  My friend from Canada who now lives here was so glad we discussed it bc otherwise she would have let her middle school daughter watch it without supervision. Now, no one in that household is watching it. Glad you are enjoying it so far, though.The book series had far less joy in it than Kevin Sullivan's film interpretation did, as I recall. A long ago Canadian member here (Amanda???) sent me a biography on Lucy Maud Montgomery. Fascinating how someone with so dreary a life could cncreate characters that generations worldwide would adore!
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Reply #6 - May 17th, 2017, 5:13pm
 
I'm up to Episode 6, so I think I have an idea of what the article would say. I will agree that it might not be best for young children to watch this show.  
However, I would not agree that the show is bereft of joy. It does dole it out in small packages. Much like I imagine life would have been like back then. This is an interesting series that appeals to me at an adult level because it doesn't sugar coat what life was like. This may version may not appeal to everyone though.
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Reply #7 - May 18th, 2017, 1:00pm
 
None of my Anne-loving friends who have watched it have liked it.  One was so annoyed she wrote an article on it and submitted it to some online magazine!  But most of them just think it missed the mark.
 
Quote from macjest on May 17th, 2017, 5:13pm:
This is an interesting series that appeals to me at an adult level because it doesn't sugar coat what life was like.

 
That made me chuckle, because one of the things some of the older Anne fans I used to know (long dead now) liked about the book series is that it reflected their small town experiences in America!  "Rachel Lynde is just like so-and-so," "Our pastor was so like Mr. Allen" and so on.
 
I haven't seen the series and probably won't watch it.  One of the reasons the Anne of the books so appeals is that she is an optimistic and upbeat person despite what she's been through, and there really were people like that.  My grandparents and great aunts and uncles went through some horrific experiences as kids, including both physical and sexual abuse, but I only know that because Grandpa wrote an autobiography that gave me start-up points to get them talking.  And as I have seen time and again in survivor's groups, people's attitudes toward what had happens can be as important for surviving and thriving as the actual event.  People who are able to recast their experience in a healthy way -- recognizing that it's the other person's issue -- do much better than people who see it as a personal attack, and one of the amazing things about the Anne book is that Anne actually demonstrates this long before the studies came around showing that fact.  
 
Abuse always hurts, but good coping skills can minimize that.  Plus having Mr. Hammond die while literally beating her changes the dynamics of that relationship in a way that just doesn't fit the books.  Although if the show Anne then views this event as God punishing Mr. Hammond, I could totally believe that.   Wink
 
One of the reasons I won't give the TV series a chance is the bullying, and in particular the fact that Diana apparently doesn't defend Anne as she did in the books.  First because their friendship is very precious to me -- Diana had to stretch herself a bit to make it work -- and secondly because the bullying dynamic sounds off.  The bullying in small towns wasn't quite the same as it is in small towns.  While on the one hand, families can have generational rivalries, OTOH poor kids "from the wrong side of town" could be respected for their school skills.  Educational attainments had a cachet they have lost, and could achieve status in a way they don't anymore.  My parents and grandparents were all relatively popular in school; nowadays, they all would have been shunned as nerds!  My mother would also have struggled in modern schools because she is so shy, and because when she's stressed, she looks angry.  In her home town, that wasn't a problem -- the times she went to school in another state (they moved a couple of times out and back), she was miserable, and both my parents have said they were grateful they never went to most of the public schools we did.  My graduating class was multiple times bigger than their whole school!
 
It's clear in the books both that Diana is popular, and her friendship and support helps Anne's popularity, and also that Gilbert was the "golden boy," who is attracted to Anne both because she is so intelligent and because she doesn't fall in line with the other girls in adoring him.  Making Gilbert an orphan as well changes all that; they bond over the weakness of being orphans instead of over the strength of their intelligence.  I was not as competitive as Anne is, but I could really relate to that romantic relationship that starts out as a competition and becomes a mutual admiration.  That whole trajectory has been changed in the TV series.
 
The other thing that really bugs me is what they've done to Matthew.  A lot of books set in that era more tolerant of someone who has never been in a romantic relationship, and who doesn't really care, that people today tend to be.  Romance just wasn't considered as necessary back then -- for instance, my maiden great aunt got less grief over her choice than my "still-single" sister did!  Young women often got pressure to marry, since it was the standard practice, but if someone had never married and showed no interest in doing so by their mid-to-late twenties, then assuming they were financially stable, people accepted that marriage and romance wasn't for them.  Especially before effective birth control, while romance was an ideal, other qualities were equally important in marriage, so a life without romance, but with those other qualities (friendship, family loyalty, maturity, etc.), was not such a big deal.  
 
From what I've heard, it sounds like the bullying is more like that in modern schools (bullying has gotten worse even just since I was a kid -- the ways my teachers dealt with it were forbidden long past and it's clear a lot of teachers have just given up), but I can't really say how accurately that is done.  However it is a modern idea that Matthew's life was incomplete without a romance, which makes me suspect my friends who complain that "the characters are too modern" may have a point.
 
But, again, I loved the books and have read the whole series through multiple times.  Someone without that background isn't going to share most of my issues with the series.
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Reply #8 - May 18th, 2017, 3:02pm
 
That's probably why I don't have as big a problem with the new series. I only read book 1 and honestly didn't care for it enough to want to continue on with the series. I don't know if it's because I read the book recently (meaning well on into my adulthood  Wink ) but it just didn't resonate with me. Mind you, I grew up in a very small town (less than 2500) and lived outside the town limits, so I understand the mindset of a small town. I went to a church school and so I also know about how judgmental young people can be. Again it just didn't appeal to me.
Because of that, I have a hard time remembering what in the series is true to the book and what isn't. I think that gives me the freedom to enjoy the series on it's own merit.
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Reply #9 - Jun 25th, 2017, 2:09pm
 
Quote from macjest on May 18th, 2017, 3:02pm:
I think that gives me the freedom to enjoy the series on it's own merit.

 
Sometimes I can separate movies (or TV shows) and books and enjoy them both as completely different things, and sometimes I can't.  I'm still mad at Kevin Sullivan for taking Anne out of Canada and plonking her in NYC, and also for shoving her history forward so she's a young lady during WW I.  Much as I like the book Anne of Green Gables, the next book or two are my least favorite, but I love the stories set early in Anne's marriage, and the one set during WW I (Rilla of Ingleside, which focuses on Anne's youngest daughter) is pretty high on my list.  
 
I digress.   Tongue  Point is, the Anne of Green Gables series seems to be one of those where I can't enjoy serious changes.  I also haven't worked up the nerve to see any of the Jane Austen movies, even though some of those adaptations are supposed to be pretty good.  OTOH, I considerably enjoyed Peter Jackson's Fellowship of the Ring, even though "my" Frodo has brown eyes, and Elijah Woods' eyes are blue, blue, blue.  I'm cranky about some of the changes in the later movies, but I still managed to enjoy the series.  I think I do better with changes to books I've only read once or, at most, twice, so I do get where you're at with Anne with an E.
 
But I'm also pretty sure watching it would just make me cranky.  For that matter, just hearing about it makes me a bit cranky.   Smiley  But I'm glad if people can enjoy it.
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